Push boundaries, ask the difficult questions, and differentiate your business with nonconformist innovation.

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In this EPIC episode Steve reconnects with my former VMware colleague, Paul Chapman, to discuss the role that innovation played during VMware’s rapid growth years. During this episode, Paul reminds us that change is the only constant in business, and encourages listeners not to fall in love with technology. Finally, we discuss Paul’s most provocative advice of all: technology is an implementation detail and innovative leaders are responsible for curating customer experiences.

Sometimes you have to break what’s working and make sure you’re the disruptor versus the disruptee.
—Tom Kemp